Covid19 has been so politicized, just because for liberals Orange man bad, that we know less about it than when we started. The death count is a useless number because doctors have been pressured to mark every death no matter how tangentially associated with to Covid19 as a Civid19 death. So now we don't have a solid number on its lethality, and we can't arrive at one either. There were and are treatments for Covid19, hydroxychloroquine IF GIVEN EARLY IN THE DISEASE WITH ZINC DOES WORK, but again because Orange man bad, we let thousands needlessly die. To drive home this point studies were specifically designed to prove hydroxychloroquine was ineffective by giving it to patients that were in their last few hours of life, it was tantamount to placing a dose on their tombstone and when it didn't raise them from the dead "See I told you it didn't work!". Ivermectin, woks in all stages of the disease and has been shown to clear patients within 48 hours, but again remember Orange man bad, so this also was restricted t only be used inside a clinical trial, in a hospital setting. Let me ask you, would you be interested in doing a double blind clinical trial where you have a 50 50 chance of getting a placebo when you are sick with a deadly disease? When the full story of Covid19 is written, and it will be, there will be no shortage of hands with blood on them. We let tens of thousands of people die for no other reason but because "Orange man bad". This should be inscribed on every tombstone of every Covid19 death.

In late 2018 and again in early 2019 (the day after I flew back from a 3 week holiday in Mexico) I had the worst flue of my life. I was down for 2 weeks, could hardly function, or talk and I was coughing up phlegm non stop. I remember thinking, if I was 60+ and had those conditions, it probably would have killed me. I was 30. The flue can be seriously killer

I have a bunch if friends that complain about people not wanting to wear masks in public but then the very same day they go make out with random strangers at the club.

We passed 400k covid deaths today, it was the 1# cause of death in 2020 even more than heart disease. Worst than fear porn is the death cult who use statistic to write off our elderly as expendable and we STILL don't have a national pandemic response.

Funny how I haven't heard nothing about the regular flu lately. Usually hospitals are overrun this time of year with flu cases.

He made some good points, but overall his arguments are stupid. The flu kills between 12k and 60k people each year, also usually due to having other health issues. COVID is close to 400k and climbing fast. Not saying mass once size fits all shut downs are the answer, and there needs to be way more support for people and businesses affected. The trump administration was brutal in their willingness to provide financial support, the new administration at least has huge levels of financial support coming. It’ll all improve moving forward.

Joe makes a lot of sense on things

And there was absolutely no fraud in the election.... lmao

2 epidemiologists discussing covid. oh wait ...

We were carefully steered to handle the pandemic as badly as possible. Its because key individuals in government sold out to communist.

I've had covid for 11 days now and have had no taste and smell still for 9 days. It's no joke fatigue, stomach problems, congestion, stuffy nose, bad cough comes and goes, breathing problems and I have no underlying health problems. Please if you haven't caught covid wear your masks and avoid public anything unless it's for work or seeing immediate family. I'm 32 about to be 33 and has kicked my ass almost as bad as the flu. Everybody is different but don't wait until you get it to the right things.

The ventilator issue is what created so many deaths in NYC and many nurses tried to call this out. Awful.

Try yelling twitter this and the responses you get from those that enable authoritarian governments.

Better safe than sorry but still think this fucking virus is overrated

There are lot of old people who are making decisions.

No kidding an overreaction. This whole thing is nothing but an overreaction. Nothing but confusion and bullshit if u ask me. When are we gonna stop listening to the mainstream media and our government( who does not give two shits about us, btw)... Fear and control. Thats what its always been about.....fear and control. Wake up.

What an f’wit..., how about everyone that says the response “is too much” count on one hand or two..., how many of their family members are they prepared to sacrifice to the God of their distorted greater good...?

be careful if you're on steroids

Well no SHIT they were an overreaction! My god humanity somehow gets more and more stupid with time.

"You don't need to wear a mask." "WEAR A Fing MASK!" Then people are beaten when they don't wear one. Unreal. 🙄

Thank you jre, the other side of the story at last. Is there any chance the virus was more deadly at the start of the pandemic and because of social distancing the virus has mutated to become less deadly but more transmissible, just like the aids virus but faster?

Don't go on a ventilator...

You'll see how fast Covid will be gone once Biden is in office.

That’s what I’m thinking. Even last week Cuomo admitted that they need to start re opening because it’s too destructive. Yet that guy was all for lockdowns before this. Also my guess is when the vaccine gets roles out enough they may start to pull back restrictions, even tho the vaccine is useless and doesn’t prevent transmission.

It was not an overreaction. I have never heard of anyone dying of the flu in 36 years. I know plenty that has died from covid since last year. Telling people just to get healthy is not an option FFS.

People with this position are almost always not scientists or doctors. Politicians and journalists make up 99% of the commentators with this position. That should tell you all you need to know.

Florida is doing it right.

Reaction to title.... No Shit

Glad to see people talking about this I would say everyone just go back to normal and ignore the threats of consequences..

Why has it become taboo to say where it’s come from? All the resorts say Wuhan China let’s stick to the facts.

without covid we hade a very big war now pakistan russian iran turki syria and so on and im very sur about it.

Duh ive said that since i found out it was A COLD VIRUS DO YOUR MATH.

If whoever is putting up these vids would stop putting 'covid' or 'coronavirus' in the header, then they could be shared without being shadow-banned. Just sayin'

Cant believe people still comparing covid to the flu

We know they are since not that the Democrats have gotten the elections they wanted they are now all focused on opening up and saying lock downs are not effective

The bad thing is that even in 2021 this covid 😷 thing is still not over!

yes the only people covids a risk to are the unhealthy and the old and guess who runs the country and the news

Covid is a WEF trojan horse .

Bet anyone who has lost a loved one or has a loved one working in the health sector will disagree strongly with this.

Amazing how once Biden won, magically Cali, Ny and Chicago say they want to reopen even though we have high numbers.

Yes. Just like magically Republicans will once again care about debt again. And trying to unite the country. And wife cheating. All of a sudden wife cheating will matter to them again once Trump leaves. Magical...

Fauci is a LIAR!

It seems like with the fudging of numbers, anyone who died and just so happened to have the virus the virus was blamed. Like if someone was hit by a car but had covid the covid virus was blamed.

That's what I think. It's overblown

souled out, you are killing your brand

The best discussion of COVID overreaction I've seen.

If we followed deaths by the flu I wonder how many cases there would be in the same period as covid ...

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Huh, you don't think these ventilators were intentional killing machines? That would be super fucked up, but thats kinda what it's sounding like.

Maybe we shouldnt have reacted at all. Instead of just my dad, I couldve lost uncles, aunts, grandparents, cousins, possibly even friends. Hell, maybe myself. Screwing over kids by keeping them safe? Gtfo

Bottom line: life and health for the vulnerable or paychecks. No way around it. If people modified their behavior followed guidelines we wouldn’t be in such a mess. Things started opening up again and then people blew things off. It is what it is.

Who else wants joe rogan to be president

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NOBODY is talking about the difference between dying OF Covid-19 and dying WITH Covid-19. It seems that last year was the worst year on record for Covid-19 infected bullets killing people in Chicago. And COVID-19 cancers. Covid-19 car accidents. Covid-19 suicides. Covid-19 domestic violence. Covid-19 terrorism. Covid-19 pneumonia. GOD help us and protect us from Covid-19 vaccines!!!!!!!!!

this kind of idiots are the reason why covid isn't over yet.

Weren't there like allot of articles in early 2019 saying china's older population is a threat to china's economy. I cant be the only one noticing those articles in early 2019. This creepy as heck

If only qualified people could comment on how to handle a pandemic, This show would be silence and this comment section would be empty.

You also have to consider viral load, many of the older people in homes the viral load was through the roof.

Whenever anyone says anything I check if they're a liberal, they killed like 100 million. No one said a word.

The pandemic has bring great for me.. I took both stimulus checks and invested in my td account, I'm at almost 12k from a $1800 start up.. thank you China

Id love to catch this on spotify but the win app I tried is slow af and it's buggy. And let's be honest the comment section was a big part of this, beinf able to interact and weigh in...sighhh

Nobody talks about boosting the immune system, getting healthy... testing vitamin levels in the blood and dosing properly.. we could have given IV vitamin C and D to people at risk...we could have used hotels to quarantaine people that are positive and give them suplemental oxygen...rather than have them stay home sick and wait until it is too late.. we simply failed.

How about the fact the amount of mental health issues and poverty this will cause which will far outweigh the actual deaths from it.

You don't need lockdowns if you practice social distancing in a decent manner. Wear your god damn masks, go out 1 out of 10 times you want to go out, and keep your hands clean. Lockdowns happen because govt doesn't see you as someone who can do the above. Don't mistake freedom with being an asshole.

Iam happy that Joe his eyes are open hopefully many more people will wake up soon so we can end this shit ! Iam sick and tired of living in a prison and of the lies

look up bill gates mass buying land. this is be design and things will never return to normal. this is the new normal hope you all like it

I don’t but this shit bro

How many people actually died from covid and not some co morbidity/covid complications

Aight, trauma based mind control.

The fuck!?!?! This is 2021, people don’t have to die in the street anymore Joe, your forefathers sought to it. This is the second dumbest group of people I’ve watched on YouTube since you had alex Jones on.

New Zealand, Taiwan, Iceland, Vietnam all handled the pandemic properly. Its citizens complied. Their governments acted swiftly. The death tolls in those countries is microscopic compared to USA.

Doctors and nurses are pleading with people to wear masks and not gather in significant numbers and to take precautions. They're literally pleading with people. Why? Because they don't want their hospitals to be over run with patients with Covid. The world didn't stop having serious diseases and accidents just because there's a pandemic. The ICU beds are for anyone needing intensive care, not just people with covid and in many places they are over capacity due to the pandemic. Don't blame the people trying to save your lives for your empty wallets. Blame the system that didn't help you but instead funneled billions to rich donors and gave huge tax breaks to corporations effectively gutting the economy. When it comes to average people they fall back on austerity and claim they can't help you. Doctors and nurses have nothing to gain by telling you to wear masks and stay safe. Their business is to treat people who are ill for money. They have zero stake in telling people to not get sick. Quite the opposite. So if they're telling you to protect yourself and stay safe it certainly isn't for their own benefit.

Cowards

Would be good if they had a doctor in or other epidemiology expert to comment on some of these medical claims being made by a journalist and mma commentator

I got COVID and it lasted about two weeks. I’m 65 and I was sick as hell but I survived.

No one wants to bring up the obesity correlation...

Federal Tort claim people!!! Look it up jesus. Again im the only trying to use legal means and bringing things up.

The 6 states that didn't shutdown prove it was stupid. And a political ploy

Joe has been railing against COVID for almost a year a now and still doesn’t understand how it works to kill. More time learning less time talking bull

I get it that however what should we have done? Nothing and just hoped? It’s easy to say things in hindsight

I wish they would have discussed the long term affects. My Dad got Covid at 85 and survived but months later, this morning, he told me that he has no sense of taste and smell. He can only taste sweet and saltiness.

If mask protects you, then why social distancing? If social distancing protects you, then why mask? If mask and social distancing protects you, then why lockdown? If mask, social distancing and lockdown protects you, then why vaccine? If vaccine protects you, then why still continue with mask, social distancing and lockdown? If mask, social distancing, lockdown and vaccine protects you, then why force ME with mask, social distancing, lockdown and vaccine? After all these things, if you're still not protected then it's time to BUILD YOUR IMMUNITY and stop believing your government, doctors, media, Bill Gates, Anthony Faucci, Pharmaceutical companies, WHO, UNICEF, in short the Elite Gang with the agenda to depopulate and to enslave us. I feel 100% protected. From 9 months, I have NOT been wearing a mask, didn't maintain social distancing or never followed lockdown and will never get the poisonous vaccine. DO WATER FASTING and break fasting by eating a lot of raw vegetables, fruits, drink vegetable juice with ginger, turmeric, cinnamon sticks on empty stomach, go out in the sun and do exercise, even walking for an hour or so, it is absolutely fine. This is how you build your immunity against Covid 19(common cold/flu) and all the other lifestyle sicknesses, it's that simple. Covid 19 is not a pandemic but a SCAMdemic.

The only people that don’t think closures have been an overreaction are the ones that haven’t been affected!

that's just not true u cant pen everyone with a difference in opinion into the same group, mainly because almost everyone has been affected by lockdowns and plenty of people agree with them despite that

That’s the truth. Everyone is stuck in this mind set of it “doesn’t matter until it affects me”. People blame the sick for the small businesses closing instead of the lawmakers that have given massive amounts of tax dollars to the companies that don’t need it. How much of the stimulus went to big businesses and how much went to the actual tax paying small businesses?

Did rogen just said Jesuschrist 😂?

Overreacted? 400k dead that’s in the US .

And there is the fear porn...People have died. This is true. A vast majority are old people with comorbitities. If your old and have pre-existing health conditions, you are at much higher risk of death when contracting virtually any illness. The numbers of young healthy people who died from covid alone is extremely low. Like the context of this clip indicates, no one is saying covid doesn't exist or is harmless. They are saying that increasing government overreach, the destruction of the economy, and the destruction of peoples lives is an overreaction...among other things. This isn't an extremely deadly world ending virus, yet we act as though it is. Ive known a couple people who died. It's really sad. However it doesn't change the reality of what most people will face when contracting covid: Either zero symptoms at all, or one to three days of feeling sick. For many, covid is about like the flu. Perhaps covid kills more people in higher age brackets who have previous health problems. That is probably true. Much of the numbers attributed to covid are pushed as though healthy people are just dropping dead. This isn't the case by and large. The way covid is being reported is sensationalized for a reason. The middle class in America, and all over the world, are being decimated. Small businesses are forever gone and their owners lives destroyed. Meanwhile, every large corporation is deemed "necessary" and are raking in record profits. The super rich are buying up foreclosed properties for pennies on the dollar and regular citizens lose everything. The government is gaining more and more power, while people almost beg them to do so. So when most of your population has their lives taken from them, you create a larger welfare state. More people have to rely on the government. When that fact is juxtaposed with the increasing authoritarian attitudes of governments across the globe, it isn't too hard to see that the way this "pandemic" is being represented, conveniently seems to be centralizing more power and wealth the rich and powerful.

This guest is a waste of breath...

They created a virus to shut the world down. It is a biological war against humanity. I had the virus already...

Really sick for two weeks, he nearly died. Please that has to be one of the most hyperbolic statement I’ve heard. If that’s the case I almost die every 2-3 years

It was all used to steal an election.

Nah we should really be careful bout covid me as a young healthy 20 year old fucking felt suuuuper bad when i got it and my aunt actually died

WTF? There have been more 2 million cases and 200k+ deaths and you still think it's an over reaction? Really?

I’ve read that in April the 70-80% of the people who were intubated died. Crazy. So refreshing to here this confirmed. It makes so much sense ventilators taking away the body’s natural ability to breath properly and adapt to fight.

2 man who are not brainwashed

How can something be both a disease and a virus? Why is nobody asking that? lol

Hindsight is 20/20, we only say it's an overaction because we now know much more about the virus and the medical community, now, knows how to address the issues related to covid... But back in feb and march, the information about covid is very limited and the hospitals and the whole medical community is getting overwhelmed.

Absolute utter bollocks, overreacted yet you've the most deaths in the world 😂👍🏻 look at Sweden, they regret their lack of action and people are being prosecuted because of it

no they don't. they don't have lockdown even now and you can dine at restaurants, businesses are open. they don't have more cases or deaths than other places who are completely locked down

My kids and I have been going to the gym since November 2020. Zero cases connected to the gym. Very clean, sanitized and I work out with a lot of old people. Absolutely zero cases.

Joe please DO YELL about bringing us the same antigen test you give guests so we geezers can hug our grandkids.

Joe, you saying my friends got it and they feel fine and the flu has done worse is all anecdotal. I can say the same thing in the other direction saying so many friends I knew passed away from Covid-19

The only reason “ we are still acting this way and deep in this pandemic” is we didn’t treat this srsl at the first place. Yes we had shut down of the restaurant but at the same time, there are still crazy amount of people rolling on the street without the mask, party at home, “covid party “, huge mask-free rally, anti mask protests. You may act shock but these are not “pandemic” lock down, the government are so afraid of being called “tyrannical “ and “socialists “ they literally just can’t do real lock down. Again, look at China, the actual fking socialist evil country, they did it hardcore and srsl , and they have a life, and has way lower death count, you actually save a lot of people, other than just being a talking fighter. They save people with action and compassion. You all say “ make American great again” but all you willing to do it SAYING

Have you talked to or listened to anyone from China? The CCP is notorious for misinformation, among other things. If you believe China is reporting accurate Covid numbers, I have a timeshare in the everglades I'd love to sell you. Waterfront property. Real nice place.

All this conversation is build on “ economic first, politics second and life last “ all they said valid until you have it and you have it bad

I'd agree with Joe that one of the the biggest failures of the government during this time was the complete and total lack of education about how to get healthy. What a great opportunity to encourage people to lose weight, reduce hypertension, improve Type II diabetes, and a bunch more. But nope, just wear a mask and social distance. What a useless bunch of politicians and bureaucrats our government is.

In order to create a socially just society the Dems realize that people and Cultures are unequal... This observation only solution is what the Soviets and Mao China did.You must flatten society, destroy private property rights and recreate society