Joe Rogan Experience #1006 - Jordan Peterson & Bret Weinstein

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    PowerfulJRE

    Trajanje: 2:44:56

    Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. You can check out all Dr. Peterson's self-improvement writing programs at www.selfauthoring.com
    Bret Weinstein is a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. Currently he is in the middle of an intense controversy that has been documented by the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and several other mainstream media outlets. Sign up for a free crash course on Evolutionary Thinking at bretweinstein.net/early

flowbrandz316
flowbrandz316

3 years later and Bret's episode at Evergreen sounds like a nice time.

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Devon Campbell
Devon Campbell

I love jbp but he interrupted Bret too much here. You can tell they’re both excited to talk lol

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Tony Mathis
Tony Mathis

Such total BS! Has Joe ever listened to woke identarians? The real racist are on the left. When you have such a low opinion of people that you think they are incapable of helping themselves base on race then YOU ARE A RACIST!

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dcfincher
dcfincher

The "soft bigotry of low expectations".

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Valerie Blomquist
Valerie Blomquist

glad to see other people rewatching this in 2020. Blows my mind how much of what they are talking about becomes so relevant now.

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living2burn1
living2burn1

I'm 23 minutes in... again, and love it

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CRC
CRC

Its only showing all the recent comments... where are all the older ones??

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Bicky Boo
Bicky Boo

If you change the filter to top comments the first comment is about how for some reason this video is being sorted by newest comments by default for everyone else. Very weird since every other video on YouTube is being sorted by top comments by default.

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AscendingFlight
AscendingFlight

Change the filter to top comments

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Weinstock's Art
Weinstock's Art

I don't agree with Dr Patterson on a lot of things but it's great to hear his point of view. Shame what happened to him.

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Mx_Gamer803
Mx_Gamer803

Fun fact trump actually did condemn white supremacy during his speech after Charlottesville

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Robrecht saski
Robrecht saski

Why are all pollworkers demonrats ...it should be fifty- fifty ! Doggoned ! ..

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Jose Bro
Jose Bro

The even excellent excited catsup phytogeographically disappear because ashtray presumably battle until a unnatural bucket. unbiased, unbecoming rayon

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Devon Campbell
Devon Campbell

You okay bro?

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Jan Ullrich
Jan Ullrich

Joe pushing that Trump wont denounce nazis hoax. At least Veritas have shown us behing the curtain at CNN now.

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Jan Ullrich
Jan Ullrich

@Jesse Jimenez -its not my opinion. Trump disavowed the white suprmacists, Cnn cut that bit out, you bought it and used it as an argument and its one of the reasons people hate Trump. My opinion ( despise Trump, Clinton, Harris etc) isnt even involved.

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Matt Higgins
Matt Higgins

@Jesse Jimenez That's an optimistic thought.

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Jesse Jimenez
Jesse Jimenez

@Jan Ullrich I’m sorry but that’s just your opinion. Anyway, what difference does it make now. I doubt we’ll ever see him in politics again.

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Jan Ullrich
Jan Ullrich

@Jesse Jimenez -your comment wasnt face value, it was fake news, famously debunked.

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Jesse Jimenez
Jesse Jimenez

@Jan Ullrich he does a lot of who what never heard of them type denials. I think some of you are supporters of Him and therefor have a vested interest in believing his claims of never having heard of white nationalist. I as a libertarian do not see him with rose colored glasses and I take him at face value.

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Arthur Spa Gakahu
Arthur Spa Gakahu

Joe "ad nauseam" Rogan

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Josh l
Josh l

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs 2:05 you all so wrong he said. im not talking about the white supremacist they would be fully condemed.

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Christi Simcoe
Christi Simcoe

Thanks Josh. I just watched it. Pathetic, lieing, mother fuc**rs is my new name for media!

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David Overby
David Overby

Whats up with the MIC?

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David Overby
David Overby

Do you keep the mics for looks, or are the beneficial ? I think you have a problem with a lot of quest Not really knowing how to use them... Great guest though... Maybe change it up mic for you and some..... other ppl

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David Overby
David Overby

thanks Joe

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DS Wysong
DS Wysong

The war is not the right's fault. They intend to protect and defend our Constitution by not allowing Biden's inauguration or move into our sacred WH. Defending often requires firing weapons to keep the nazi's Marxists at bay. (The behavior of the left is racist, sexist, etc.)

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x Oxymoronic x
x Oxymoronic x

1:46:42 everyone in 2020 be like..

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Abdullah Jamal
Abdullah Jamal

I think joe put himself in a room where silence would be better than talking hahahaha man tough position to be in

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Abdullah Jamal
Abdullah Jamal

@levi davenport i meant listening to these two just go back and forth is mesmerizing u feel that they have so much knowledge and are very wise, and its not like joe isnt intellectual but they are on another level, every word they speak is articulated and is used properly, and you feel that hoes job at building a convo or directing it isnt very crucial at this podcast so silence/listening is better than him talking or commenting and thats wise of him

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levi davenport
levi davenport

What do you mean by this?

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Devon Campbell
Devon Campbell

Who else is still loving this in December 2020???

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Jesse Jimenez
Jesse Jimenez

Me! Awesome discussion.

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M Y
M Y

It’s an episode for the ages no doubt

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Stinky PetE
Stinky PetE

Same I’m on a Jordan Peterson video binge

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Sadiya Liya
Sadiya Liya

My podmark 20:03 - will comeback after finishing this research paper!

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AJ sdla
AJ sdla

JRE has the best guests and podcasts EVER!

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Mx_Gamer803
Mx_Gamer803

Good tag. Putting here for me. Marxism 1:30:30

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Aitch McAitch
Aitch McAitch

Great point by Joe around 23:00 mark. This is what happens when ‘grown ups’ have a conversation.

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Brion Flynn
Brion Flynn

Verzion tells me all the time that thier 5G is the one I want. 2:00 hr mark.

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Brion Flynn
Brion Flynn

Freaking wow.

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Washington Bgoni
Washington Bgoni

Google is automatically sorting the comments for this specific video by newest first by default. This and only this video. What is Google's motive here? Are they trying to shut down discussion on the topics raised in this video? I suggest you copy and paste this comment to keep the message at the top so people remember to sort by top comment

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Prashant Maurice
Prashant Maurice

I think Google's ai subconsciously doing this.. Interesting point is why are lengthy threads suppressed subconsciously. It's hard to mine attention in longform scientific threads ? Does not sound right

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Shelby Mayes
Shelby Mayes

Wow I was just thinking this and read your comment! Interesting!

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levi davenport
levi davenport

That’s fucking crazy. Big tech is probably one of my biggest fears/concern for the future. I’m really glad you pointed this out.

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Per Nielsen
Per Nielsen

Everything in measure...

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Andrew Ross
Andrew Ross

JP is honestly dumb as fuck lol

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rickyspeck
rickyspeck

he's just fucking with you...

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rejectedhex
rejectedhex

You're probably one of the marxist radical leftists spoken about in this episode

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John
John

Explain how lmao, everything he said in this video was incredibly insightful

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Glory Boii
Glory Boii

The fact that you wrote Lol , is selfevidentlay define criteria of smart individuals to you . Plus JP What's is that at least put respect in his work his a doctor first then hold the certificate to validate anything he say's plus experience of 30 years in psychology . instead of aiming to have pointless opinion on doctor peterson character why don't you clean your room . So what's your point again ?

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David Du
David Du

@GSD Kane & Apollo well said

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Ty Nicholas
Ty Nicholas

27:45 holy shit!

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Ty Nicholas
Ty Nicholas

@Oliver Holmes I think the two coasts would join together and attack the middle states

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Oliver Holmes
Oliver Holmes

@Ty V well I meant creating two new nations. It was purely a thought of the moment meant to entertain. Private land owner would be fucked if it happened

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Oliver Holmes
Oliver Holmes

@Rodjae Jones wtf are you saying ?

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Rodjae Jones
Rodjae Jones

You got to get out there to see

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Rodjae Jones
Rodjae Jones

I’m not tryna lie I’m not sure

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Alex O
Alex O

imagine saying that right wingers are cleanly and avoid pathogens, then they refuse to wear masks during covid. ouch

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Valerie Blomquist
Valerie Blomquist

@La Luna not just a week... seriously for months without washing. In and out of purses, all around every place in town 🥵 On the disgust note, we are disgusted with the people who think they can tell us what to do (wear a mask when it’s proven not beneficial for the situation, close our businesses, etc.) so I agree with JBP on the disgust -> conservative comments.

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La Luna
La Luna

Masks arent hygienic that's the singular thing that has been clear in this. Particularly fabric masks. People touch their masks and wear the same one for a whole week you think that's cleanly? Seriously. Grow up.

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chris brown
chris brown

If you just did anything, you just separated nazis from the current right wing

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Andy Kruskamp
Andy Kruskamp

@xertris Peterson said authoritarians/right wingers when referring to the study. What took him down that trail was referencing orderliness, which tends to be a conservative trait.

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420 funny
420 funny

Op has lost the entire point

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Zach ya
Zach ya

I will get on spotify once jbp is back

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Raymond Gibbs
Raymond Gibbs

Same thing on youtube videos of the mobs in the malls setting up innocent people in a fake drug deal then beating the crap out of them.

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RON OBRIEN
RON OBRIEN

To make it illegal to discriminate against any person for identifying as anything they wish is understandable. To make to illegal to acknowledge that there are those differences defies logic, biology, and reason.

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Kevin Culver
Kevin Culver

December 1 2020 and I'm still watching this on youtube lol

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Nerf!!
Nerf!!

He did have a hard stance against the nazis. He denounced them several times.

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Free2016
Free2016

Kudos to Joe for hanging with these two mental GIANTS. As smart as they are, I'm sure they'd agree they had no idea we'd be where we are today with all these issues. The world has literally gone mad from top to bottom.

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Clark Magnuson
Clark Magnuson

@Rob Long If a guy can see the future, he does not have to work for long:)

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Rob Long
Rob Long

Nobody knows the future captain obvious. Humans try to define the unpredictable and its futile. I dont see either of these two attempting to predict the future of humanity. They simply call balls and strikes as reactionists. Anybody that says they can personally do otherwise are simple liars. Nothing more.

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Tom Ahern
Tom Ahern

Love this talk. I made a review video of one of my other favourite ones too if you're keen to watch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAeg2V4ZtpM&t=4s

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John Birge
John Birge

Strikes me that ultimately "Progressives" Collectivists" whatever they're calling themselves these days, do not understand Civilization! They think it's just and academic exercise. Given any population and their control of the assets, with central planning they can make a Heaven on Earth! Civilization is composed of 7 Billion individuals , getting up everyday and going about improving their lives and that of their family, which builds effective communities.

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mary jane
mary jane

bring jordan back on the podcast, hes well again

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Joey Dyker
Joey Dyker

Burning it all down is the "middle" those with nothing, see it as a good thing. Those winning see it as losing what they won. Neither is necessarily wrong, it's about what stage of losing you're in.

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Notaprince Butaduke
Notaprince Butaduke

Why can't more people gravitate to people like this?

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rejectedhex
rejectedhex

@Stabby666 JoRdAn PeTeRsOn dIsAgReEs wItH mY bEliEvE SySteM sO I RenDeR hIs pOiNTs iNvAlId AnD cAlL HiM aN iDiOt🤡

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levi davenport
levi davenport

@Ty V looooool

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Ty V
Ty V

@Stabby666 you seem like fun

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Robert Dorsey
Robert Dorsey

It’s happening slowly but surely most people would agree with freedom of opinion and choice and people would prefer raw genuine uncut podcast generally speaking and that’s something every joe Rogan podcast promotes

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Dennis Stelling
Dennis Stelling

This conversation is more relevant today than ever before! Big Tech is actively dividing us

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Robert Dorsey
Robert Dorsey

Not just them.. other countries too big tech is just doing whatever they can to make money and other small groups took there blinded greed for money as a opportunity to reek havoc socially Ima make a social app that’s gonna trump all the other

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Graeme Terry
Graeme Terry

I would like to know what happens when somebody who is a fervent defender of identity politics against biological essentialism, but also an outspoken antitheist does when they try to reconcile their position when posed with the statement "science doesn't care what you believe".

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Christian Gastelum
Christian Gastelum

Explode

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Angelo Lacap
Angelo Lacap

Lost for words about how satisfying it is to hear these type of intellectual conversations.

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levi davenport
levi davenport

@Angelo Lacap I could not have said it better myself. I’ve seen this guy on every comment thread under this video which supports this type of conversation. The truth hurts I guess.

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Notaprince Butaduke
Notaprince Butaduke

@Stabby666 lol you're on youtube arguing against JPs intellect. No one should take you seriously.

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Angelo Lacap
Angelo Lacap

@Stabby666 and you need to open your mind and get yourself out of the dunning kruger effect in which you are probably subjected to. For you to suggest that this isn't intellectual is enough to suggest that you are very well overestimating your very limited, low resolution knowledge of a certain domain, therefore you tend to underestimate everything you don't comprehend which are probably 90% of the conversation in this video. In every possible way this is an intellectual conversation, unless you redefine the word "intellectual" based on your convenience, probably to suffice your agenda or ideology. I should also point out that you easily give yourself away as a hater of JP since you had to point him out instead of just pertaining to them as a group since all of them are participating in this conversation. I didn't even point him out in my comment. I'd assume that you are one of those people who are hurt about mr. Peterson's truthful ideas since it puts great accountability and responsibility to the individual. And you as a useless, good for nothing low life chose to not accept both of those, so you just go on about the internet hating on people who preach the undeniable significance of accountability and responsibility. That's more easier eh? Rather than actually getting a life? Get a life. I know that's a lot to be extracted out of your simple comment. But that's a high probability. And btw i'm a misogynistic bigot, oppressive , white supremacist sis-male. Just so you wouldn't have to say it. I'm actually a lower middle-class asian in a third world country btw.

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Stabby666
Stabby666

If you honestly think JP is engaging in intellectual conversation, you really need to expand your bubble.

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Rachel Dunford
Rachel Dunford

This is one of the most singularly significant intellectual conversations of all time.

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Kc
Kc

Hey Joe Rogan I was just listening to the first podcast you had with Jordan Peterson. The one 4 years ago I forget the number of the podcast but it just got pulled down or blocked or saved or something. Any idea where it went?

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rejectedhex
rejectedhex

Same with the Milo Yiannopoulos one it just disappeared.

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Trash Boi
Trash Boi

the second one as well :/

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Gendo Ikari
Gendo Ikari

youtube treating him like shit and moved to spotify

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Gendo Ikari
Gendo Ikari

some of his podcasts featuring other people are getting privated too. my guess is because of the exclusivity deal he made with spotify. he’s slowly purging the videos here and moving them to spotify, i think.

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I like that boulder. That is a nice boulder.
I like that boulder. That is a nice boulder.

Oh shit. Wonder if it has to do with Peterson's drug abuse.

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Valance Music
Valance Music

Google is automatically sorting the comments for this specific video by newest first by default. This and only this video. What is Google's motive here? Are they trying to shut down discussion on the topics raised in this video? I suggest you copy and paste this comment to keep the message at the top so people remember to sort by top comment

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tiffsaver
tiffsaver

@Silver Pike Here's the bad news... they're already there. That's the problem with MONOPOLIES: No competition. Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon. Google even owns You Tube, and no one even notices.

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Silver Pike
Silver Pike

Google's motive is world domination

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tiffsaver
tiffsaver

Google's ultimate goal is the total destruction of the First Amendment.

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Tin Nho
Tin Nho

Poor dog I liked my own commet how sad.

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Lee Main
Lee Main

Christianity vs Judaism

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jonathan hart
jonathan hart

24:28

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Tin Nho
Tin Nho

I love u girl

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Kevin Crateman
Kevin Crateman

A man of few clothes

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Zeke Mihalis
Zeke Mihalis

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Uber Laufer
Uber Laufer

What is "the issue" these left and right sides argue and fight over? It is never clearly stated. What are these sides trying to achieve? There are left and right leaning parties in my country's political scene, but we are so poor as a country they are basically working on the same issue, economy. We buried the discussion on political orientation in these lands along with the bodies of people who died fighting for them. At the end of the war, for every dead right leaning countryman there was a dead left leaning one. Worst of all, they were both human in their own ways, both were short-sighted and angry, both brought pain and misery on inoccent people. So when you state such broad and bold items like "the left" arguing "the right", I ask you where is the center, and what is at the center? And is that which is at the centre of the debate worth dying for?

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Sean Ryno
Sean Ryno

@Rachel Dunford the only people who call anarchism a "utopian ideal", are it's critics. Anarchism is not about "order" or "fairness" really. Theft is wrong and there is never a good reason for it. If you think it's morally acceptable to take things that do not belong to you, then you can not be an anarchist.(as I have come to define it) This goes in all directions and for everyone and there are no exceptions. Taxation is theft. There are no anarchists who support taxation. When I was a child, I realized that theft is wrong. When I was a young man, I started taking that principle more seriously. When I grew up, I realized that THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. The toughest part of teaching people anarchism, is helping them understand how things might operate in the absence of a government. Which is frustrating because it's always pretty obvious to anyone who wasn't indoctrinated and conditioned into a statist paradigm. Like "but how roads with no state?!", when clearly it's not necessary to rob or coerce people in order to have roads.

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Rachel Dunford
Rachel Dunford

@Sean Ryno good point on coercion. I think the mistake people make is believing that there exists “a left” or “a right” side that differ in this view. For instance, I call myself a centrist and I would vocalize my core belief is absolute freedom of choice. All people have a right to make their own decisions and face the consequences of their decisions. I don’t believe it’s the place of any entity to coerce another entity into a specific choice that first entity deems more worthy of choosing That being said, I believe that there are unfortunate consequences to choices that one has to keep in mind when choosing a behavior. For instance, if you are breaking the law, whether it’s a just and fair law or not, there will be natural consequences to the decision to break it. The fairness and justness of the consequence is a separate issue. We must first protect the right to freedom of choice and protect that at all costs. Then we can decide whether or not a consequence protects the freedoms of all interested parties and we decide as a on the fairness of the consequences. (i.e. prison, fines etc.) So, I see our two views as interrelated. You can’t have freedom if you have coercion. But the extremist on both sides believe the absolute idea of fairness and justice above all else. To them the freedom of choice and freedom from coercion can be sacrificed in the name of order and fairness. The problem with fairness is it’s subjective. A man who is stealing from a store might not think it’s not fair he doesn’t have money to buy what he wants, but the store owner would not think it’s fair that they lost money when they had their merchandise stolen. Progressives try to rectify this issue by saying, well the situation should favor whoever has the least societal advantage in order to rectify the imbalances of power among people. Whereas a fascist attempts to rectify the issue and says, whoever has the most societal advantage should be favored because they have a greater chance of forwarding the society as a whole. And so you have two warring and divided factions that cannot ever be unified and must resort to coercion and force win dominance. However, when your first priority is equal freedom of choice without coercion, you can come to a more logical conclusion. Which circumstances leads to a greater lost of choice or leads to a greater amount of force and coercion. And that answer is obvious.

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Sean Ryno
Sean Ryno

Either you believe it is righteous to use coercion against others, or it is not. I am an anarchist. You could distill my entire ideology down to "no coercion". A statist will essentially say the same thing with a caveat like "No coercion, unless it's for what I think is a good reason."

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Sean Ryno
Sean Ryno

Centrists are just the unprincipled. The bedrock issue has to do with what you think "property" is. What does "ownership" mean to you? Essentially, the two conflicting sides are STATISTS and ANARCHISTS. STATISTS believe that it is morally righteous to sacrifice individual liberty(property) for sake of the "greater good". ANARCHISTS believe that liberty is sacred and supreme. If someone has a vaccine for a virus that is killing you, do you have the right to take it from him without consent?(steal it)

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Josh Birch
Josh Birch

Google is automatically sorting the comments for this specific video by newest first by default. This and only this video. What is Google's motive here? Are they trying to shut down discussion on the topics raised in this video? I suggest you copy and paste this comment to keep the message at the top so people remember to sort by top comment

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Frederick Hofmann
Frederick Hofmann

shutthe fuck up they dont care

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Miki Miyazaki
Miki Miyazaki

@John Montgomery im pretty sure someone totally unrelated to joe in any way runs this channel.

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John Montgomery
John Montgomery

@Miki Miyazaki or one of his associates? I don't understand if that's a question...

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Miki Miyazaki
Miki Miyazaki

@John Montgomery joe controls this page?

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Shailesh Tiwari
Shailesh Tiwari

@John Montgomery Aight aight thank you :)

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Shann381
Shann381

These two are an amazing duo of why and why. They’re both saying the same beautiful thing but in different ways. It’s just that Bret speaks more on the biology aspect of humans and less on the motive that comes with biology and Jordan speaks more on the motive aspect that comes with biology and less on the biology itself. And joe rogan is amazing in his own way for many intellectual reasons but at the core, his brilliance is provoking this conversation. The way he drives the “car” of conversation is beautiful. I loved every second of this ❤️

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P C
P C

I haven’t even watched it yet but I know it’s going to be fucking amazing.

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Angelo Lacap
Angelo Lacap

Spoiler alert : it's fucking amazing

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Carlos Fernandes
Carlos Fernandes

Just by listening to this podcast my IQ went over 82

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Charles
Charles

I love people who don’t follow the status quo because the status quo a few hundred years ago was slavery is ok,

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Sean Ryno
Sean Ryno

Taxation is theft.

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Bauer Beauty
Bauer Beauty

That’s how I started thinking of inequality, why not take others beauty, health, etc.? If you think ur entitled to their money, where does it stop? It seems pretty obvious that someone who is healthy and in good shape that goes to the gym every morning even the mornings they don’t want to, eats healthy, is disciplined with diet has a great body because they’ve invested a lot of thought and energy and money into it should have good health and beauty. It’s idiotic when u compare it to any other aspect of life but we normalize it with wealth. We don’t respect the art of obtaining money as a science like staying healthy. we see it as a fluke. It’s a total lack of consciousness and awareness.

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rejectedhex
rejectedhex

Exactly its basically communism, people obtaining things without working for it

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Casey Atchison
Casey Atchison

Math guys say "2+2=5"

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barney2006p
barney2006p

I love seeing people still viewing this today

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Brahimi Soufiane
Brahimi Soufiane

So disappointed in Joe's recent line ups I had to go back this far for a decent Discussion. Apparently not the only one doing so. Cheers people.

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JASON FREITAG
JASON FREITAG

1st time watching.. just started it! Not sure how I missed this one! Very excited! Hope my brain is ready!

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BagOfEyebrows
BagOfEyebrows

here I was thinking I'm possibly the only one watching this old JP video on JR's show this December Sunday, but a ton of new comments today (?!) - was this podcast linked to today or something on some website?

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John Montgomery
John Montgomery

They seem to have set comments to default to newest first on this video (Joe rogan set this - its not a big conspiracy by Google like people are assuming)

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Dobrin Stefan
Dobrin Stefan

I read a book many years ago,like 20 some, children could not be punish at home, they were punish out, in a castle or some similar place, but in rest of the time went rampage. Could someone please help with the author and title. Cheers! The plot fells like this chat, and makes me sick, Cheers!

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Andreas Jonsson
Andreas Jonsson

1:57:52-1:57:55 😂😂😂

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KD Nick
KD Nick

Rogan is singing a different song now

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Charles
Charles

The same way Jordan mentions that family whealth only last 3 generations is an example of how great civilizations are doomed to eventually fail, just on a greater scale

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Natalie Boyd
Natalie Boyd

Why not have a conversation about all the things Biden did, or the racist divisive b.o. was. I don't understand why intelligent people such as tgese men can't look beyond the sound bites. Jordan is trying to be fair. Who cares what the gross racists think....? President Trump is not RACIST.... he was constantly attacked by tge media. This conversation is extremely disappointing. Look a little harder fellas

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John
John

By no means am I a democrat, but I do think trump could’ve done a better job denouncing these groups. Yes I know he has denounced them a couple times but if he even devoted 1 speech entirely to conveying his opposition to racism he would’ve done better. It’s not that he didn’t denounce them, it’s just that his mentality was always “it should be self evident that I denounce racism” and not “let me make it as crystal clear as possible that I am 100% anti racism”. Most people aren’t gonna take the time to look into the facts so he has to provide it in a more clear way.

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Angelo Lacap
Angelo Lacap

@Shakyric Lawson yeah perhaps that's what happens when people become very deeply knowledgeable about different domains such as psychology, history and philosophy. They're probably well enough to form an opinion backed by these knowledge from different areas. And no wonder how these intellectual/knowledgeable people tend to agree on things. It's because they understand certain fundamental principles.

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Shakyric Lawson
Shakyric Lawson

Maybe that these smart men have these opinions is indicative that they understand something you don't. Ain't that at least possible?

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Brown Roach
Brown Roach

I wonder what part of the video has DMT or Chimps in it

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Some Prsn
Some Prsn

Listening to Joe even humoring the idea that Trump sides with actual White Nationalists is so embarrassing

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cheyenne harris
cheyenne harris

brent help build the liberal ideology that eventually eat him . so fuck that curly headed fuck wad

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Angelo Lacap
Angelo Lacap

@Poras Srivastava right let's not subject ourselves to the positive loop-back, polarization they just described in this conversation. Both sides are necessary, and when out of hand, both sides can be really bad.

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Poras Srivastava
Poras Srivastava

There's nothing wrong with being liberal being Liberal is awesome it's the radicalization of the left that's dangerous

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Shakyric Lawson
Shakyric Lawson

How, by being a teacher?

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guy !
guy !

guys it’s my chicken reginalds’ bithday today please say happy birthday :)

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John Foreman
John Foreman

Have an awesome birthday Reggie, you’re the best!! Oh, and look out for the knife bud.

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Poras Srivastava
Poras Srivastava

Happy birthday reg💜

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Goat K
Goat K

Happy birthday Reg!

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Alex Mercer
Alex Mercer

HAPPY BIRTHDAY REGGINATOR!!!!! lol funny fact we used to have two turkeys (the small white ones......their names were lurk and turk 😅) on my family's farm and me and my dad and a few of his buddy's were drinking beer and tequila one evening and we had the idea to pour lurk and turk a few shots needless to say they lapped it up and could tell they felt it 😅 of course in moderation we didn't wanna hurt the poor lil fellas 😇 they lived long happy lives and every once in awhile they loved their tequila 😎 coolest turkeys ever they were like my friends I miss them 😔

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Austin Solsman
Austin Solsman

Happy birthday Reggie!!!!

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Jasper Boekel
Jasper Boekel

Google is automatically sorting the comments for this specific video by newest first by default. This and only this video. What is Google's motive here? Are they trying to shut down discussion on the topics raised in this video? I suggest you copy and paste this comment to keep the message at the top so people remember to sort by top comment

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g0tst1ngs
g0tst1ngs

Also have you heard of a bug? Lol why is one anomaly all of a sudden a clue to a master plan??

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Charles
Charles

Lol crazy how u mentioned it right after I noticed it,

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HackerulRoman
HackerulRoman

It's chosen by the uploader.

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Crispy Noodle
Crispy Noodle

The white supreme part of this discussion did not age well. See how Biden got endorsed by the klan.

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Martin Moser
Martin Moser

Wow, JPs analysis about the use of the Nazi/Commie Symbol is undergraduate PoliSci level.

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Rima Mukherjee
Rima Mukherjee

Iya ya Allah.

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Ryu Fue
Ryu Fue

Perfect.

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Natalie Boyd
Natalie Boyd

I am glad this is getting recommended to everyone. People need to hear this one for sure. I don't want to live in an open-air Evergreen College. Thanks Google for doing the right thing! Never thought I'd say this hahah

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Jason Dyer
Jason Dyer

"People are reverting to identifying by race and that's not a good thing......." There's that position of white authority that these two chuckle dicks base the entirety of their dealings with People of color on. "Are these other color folks modernized and advanced enough to have sloughed their racial identity so they may sit with us at the table of reason?"

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Augustino
Augustino

@Jason Dyer I could not agree more.

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Jason Dyer
Jason Dyer

@Poras Srivastava If your comment is directed at me... I would say that these two educated men, these three speakers request, require, and protect a space for open discussion even if the topics are inflammatory. They precede this conversation with a type of claim that People are reverting to their identity politics. Peterson and company posit that spending any amount of time identifying one's race or background is a waste of time. They suggest that first there should be a homogenized space for thinking to occur before anything resembling race can be applied. This leads to discussions and disparate points of view regarding the definitions and functions of racism in terms of a systemic notion versus individual responsibility. They prefer for the conversation to negate both aspects of the definition of racism in favor of being able to even start the topic of discussion on the real topics like say, Eugenics. At one point in time, The curly haired gentleman explains it's only human to want to curb the genetic markers that bring down the race. At another point in the video, they specifically mention that Eugenics is a horrid concept. This entire request for an ironic safe space for discussion is best served if all the people abandon whatever backgrounds they may hold that might trigger an emotional response to these guys footing around with the idea that THe left is causing a diversity problem in America by simply encouraging folks to spend time thinking about their identities and backgrounds. The suggestion is that by not setting aside your non-whiteness, you are causing a degradation in the flow of information and the process of "thinking things through" as Peterson is want to say.

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Augustino
Augustino

@Poras Srivastava If you watch the video, Peterson uses examples of ancient Chinese art to make the claim that they knew how to represent DNA and therefore knew what DNA was and is.

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Poras Srivastava
Poras Srivastava

Can you elaborate more? Sorry you got me curious

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Daka Shoes
Daka Shoes

Jeez I never thought of it like that. Have me questioning Peterson now.

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Augustino
Augustino

Weinstein deeming the event back in 2017 "oppressive" in his email is delusional and sympathizing with him and his ideology is equally delusional. For anyone to call the Day of Absence/Day of Presence event that took place at Evergreen State College "racist" or find it to be "segregating people based on race" is utterly ridiculous. That is like me saying a "I think father-daughter dances are perpetuating the segregation of genders". Mom's aren't being excluded or segregated, they can even often participate any which way they'd like too. A lot of single parent moms are even allowed to participate because there's plenty of daughters that don't have dads. The encouragement for dads and daughters to come to a dance isn't fixed against women and moms its just encouraging dad's to bring their daughters to a dance or vice versa. This event at Evergreen operated in this same way for 40+ years. I can't emphasize this enough: BRET WEINSTEIN HAD BEEN A PROFESSOR AT THE SCHOOL FOR 14 YEARS PRIOR TO THE 2017 EVENT. HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN ALL OF THIS FULL AND WELL YET CLEARLY ACTED IN A SENSELESS MANNER AND WITH A SENSE OF IMPROPRIETY. I'D EVEN ARGUE HE DID THIS TO ELEVATE HIS OWN STATUS. THE MAN GOT $500,000 FROM SUING THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL SETTLING OUT OF COURT. Oh and Weinstein will let Tucker Carlson blatantly misrepresent the event on Fox News so long as Carlson supports his ideology too. Tucker Carlson says students and the school "demanded all white people leave or else.". That's bullshit, who the hell demanded this? The man even goes as far to calls himself a Sanders supporter and "deeply progressive" person yet he's on Fox News because they support him. The contradictions are unreal. FOX INTERVIEW HERE): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9nFced_eo&t=6s Still have doubts about this and think Weinstein is right? Perhaps read some other pieces about the event please: -https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article153694734.html -https://www.huffpost.com/entry/evergreen-state-college-another-side_b_598cd293e4b090964295e8fc?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2JxbTdBczFqQWQ_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEFAJIu32Q36PzOjXCZwDhRTkUet-OKiRs2E8R5N71b15NFELv6v7C3908hvdA5Vh_MDCITxVM-WoECJO8csn5b0LN1JVBhCRowMfjo_fpkQG4TbIR2TFjXlPpjAOMNxAww6zc7s_RlqDs2MVOXRtYrfT1xV0GcAkssHtdNpGTsH -Just a past Evergreen student trying to add some perspective.

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Augustino
Augustino

@Luanzinho, google puerilism.

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Luanzinho
Luanzinho

Agustino, google racism. Your an obvious idiot.

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Augustino
Augustino

@Charles To call him a scapegoat is a bit of a selective observation. He used the event for reactionary purposes and there's overwhelming facts to support this.

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Charles
Charles

@Augustino If You honestly think that the actions of those students was a proper response to the email I read, then it would take a lot more then YouTube comments for us to ever find common ground. It’s all good though! Every one too blind by rage nowadays, hopefully we can come down soon and have the right conversations and fight the right fights But that’s a false hope considering that media exploit that rage every chance it gets, Glad I got Your perspective tho, I’m less likely to jump to his defense now that I feel like there’s more to know, If we get rid of all the nice guys then all we’ll be left with is all the villains, then we’ll have no choice but to fight then, talk shit out with the people who are willing to, if You get rid of them then there will never be a chance to understand the other side’s perspective And All we’ll be left with is a bunch of loud extremes screaming at each other and eventually shoot at each other What I saw wasn’t a movement of reasoning That was a full force of authority, And though there is high probability there’s issues that fueled that force, I’m sure it was brought down on the wrong individual, He’s a scapegoat from what I see Y’all let the real villains getaway 😂 That’s crazy, that’s American politics 😂 Huh 🤔.

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Augustino
Augustino

@Charles Im repeating and taking out words from a statement you made previously. You stated that, "You can’t force guilt on people who didn’t commit the crime." I then responded to this by saying "he did in fact 'commit the crime' as you put it.". My point was to explain that using words to suggest he didn't do the things he so very clearly did, is incorrect. I wasn't suggesting "writing an email is a crime". Answer to question: Both sides of the argument have made a case about how one side is demonizing the other more. But it wasn't wrong for Evergreen's students to stand up to someone who was wrong. Students and faculty had and tried to have the very discussions with Weinstein you are talking about but everyone often only looks to the protest videos and suggest that that was the only kind of discussions or discourse that happened. Students of color, namely black, were faced with a number of issues and problems facing the school and this was the basis for having the protests. Not just Weinstein and his groundless email. To quote the article again: "participation in some form was assumed, but attendance at the events was voluntary; the announcement to the campus read, 'On Day of Absence, you can choose how and where to participate.' Nevertheless, faculty member Bret Weinstein denounced it on the faculty listserv, arguing that the college was engaging in “a show of force” and that whites were being coerced to leave campus." (HuffPost). Question: Is it wrong to call him out on this?

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Create and Destroy
Create and Destroy

Church not business)) that's funny

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gibbopg
gibbopg

Sigh ... 3 years later and I'm no smarter! Also, I think it has since been revealed that The Left are the bigger problem.

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Ryan Bradshaw
Ryan Bradshaw

@rejectedhex simply put and accurate lol

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rejectedhex
rejectedhex

Both sides equally suck dick

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Ryan Bradshaw
Ryan Bradshaw

@Stephen Hughes 100% agree that on the left the virtue signaling and inability to let people live is what’s causing the greater divide amongst people. Now I also think the right’s stubborn and sometimes illogical standpoint on large issues is also equally troublesome but what i find on both sides is the lack of actual factual information and reliance on strawman arguments and, essentially, namecalling, is just petty bullshit and common ground is getting further and further from existence.

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Stephen Hughes
Stephen Hughes

@Ryan Bradshaw Yeh, the problem is, it's easy for the left to justify their positions as they claim it to be the compassionate and virtuous approach (and it seems like it is). Which is not a bad thing. The trouble is when the 'greater good' becomes justification for immoral behavior. As the old saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And it seems like society is being driven in that direction under the guise of such seemingly moral causes as BLM, trans- rights, feminism, climate activism etc.

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Ryan Bradshaw
Ryan Bradshaw

@Hypnotic lol conspiracy theories that could be true like the cabal of hollywood and dems that eat children and rig elections with mail in votes? Yeah talk about a fucking sheep. Literally blindly following tweets as facts. Absolutely moronic.

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Matts ART
Matts ART

1:35:45 Lol when Joe defends his download count, that's exactly what free trade is and how they defend it and I think it's a good point.

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Crichjo32
Crichjo32

I feel like I gained 50 IQ points after watching this.

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Stephen Hughes
Stephen Hughes

Well actually, the literature on that....

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Michael Mayberry
Michael Mayberry

not good to listen to this when your high as fuck, i am out of duck tape

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Alex Mercer
Alex Mercer

Why?

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Michelle J
Michelle J

Why not have a conversation about all the things Biden did, or the racist divisive b.o. was. I don't understand why intelligent people such as tgese men can't look beyond the sound bites. Jordan is trying to be fair. Who cares what the gross racists think....? President Trump is not RACIST.... he was constantly attacked by tge media. This conversation is extremely disappointing. Look a little harder fellas

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Daka Shoes
Daka Shoes

@Stephen Hughes well put

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Michelle J
Michelle J

@Stephen Hughes I'd have to watch again, it's possible, but I feel they were reaching a little further, regardless....President has condemned white supremacists more than any other president! Over and over. Imagine how frustrating that would be. Put yourself in the man's shoes. How maddening. Perhaps his words didn't hit the mark the first time for some to hear. .. but geez, give a guy a break, and.....LOOK AT THE MANS PAST....he's NOT racist. Lil joe...on the other hand shows he is over and over and over

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Stephen Hughes
Stephen Hughes

I don't think they were saying he is racist. They were just pointing out that by not condemning the white supremacists, it only gives more credence to the argument that he is racist. I like how they put it 'not all Trump supporters are racist, but all racists are Trump supporters'.

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Tensa Johngetsu
Tensa Johngetsu

@Uninsulated Shrimp and i love how you tell someone to go out and get a balanced view when you are the one who is brainwashed by the left and the media so badly that you cannot even think for yourself and you just jump on the race card bullshit.

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Tensa Johngetsu
Tensa Johngetsu

@Uninsulated Shrimp name ONE please just ONE racist thing he has done. And if i come back and see you say he called mexicans rapists and he wants to deport them then you have no evidence of him being racist. Go ahead. Ill wait. I wont hold my breath though, i like my life.... dumbass

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Daniel
Daniel

Video gets a down vote for Weinstein lying about Charlottesville with no pushback.

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Paige Norman
Paige Norman

I’m curious too

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Stephen Hughes
Stephen Hughes

What do you mean?

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May Freedom Reign
May Freedom Reign

I am glad this is getting recommended to everyone. People need to hear this one for sure. I don't want to live in an open-air Evergreen College. Thanks Google for doing the right thing! Never thought I'd say this hahah

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Augustino
Augustino

@Yourmum Ghey You’re welcome to read the other article I provided. It's also important to check who the author(s) of the article are and or the substance of the information within the article before writing off an entire news organization that distributed it.

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Yourmum Ghey
Yourmum Ghey

@Augustino Huffpost? Really?

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Augustino
Augustino

How did you arrive at this opinion? Weinstein and his actions are not justifiable. Read these please: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/evergreen-state-college-another-side_b_598cd293e4b090964295e8fc?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2JxbTdBczFqQWQ_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEFAJIu32Q36PzOjXCZwDhRTkUet-OKiRs2E8R5N71b15NFELv6v7C3908hvdA5Vh_MDCITxVM-WoECJO8csn5b0LN1JVBhCRowMfjo_fpkQG4TbIR2TFjXlPpjAOMNxAww6zc7s_RlqDs2MVOXRtYrfT1xV0GcAkssHtdNpGTsH https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article153694734.html

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Connection Lost
Connection Lost

23:35 Yeah fuck those assholes that want to preserve the type of societal values that built this horrible nation that everyone wants to flee to and live in forever. I don't understand how they'd want to conserve the type of nation that invented everything, including the internet itself.

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Swift
Swift

@Glass Grizzly Gaming Again, a model is not the same as the actual invention and implementation you moron. Source: https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/

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Glass Grizzly Gaming
Glass Grizzly Gaming

@Swift The first running model of the internet was first created in Stanford on the US department of defenses dime in a research lab. I'd be careful going around calling people "mornons" when you can't do a basic google search. Source: https://www.history.com/news/who-invented-the-internet

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Swift
Swift

You fucking moron Tim Berners Lee is credited with the creation of the internet. UK born and raised.

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The Chosen One
The Chosen One

I could say I can’t believe people are coming back to this one but the truth is I know why 👍 lobster on my friends 🦞

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Cesar Molina
Cesar Molina

Dear Jordan, Objective true = true Tool true = not true

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Aaron Burton
Aaron Burton

@Cesar Molina see you get it.. most people don't and I can't understand why

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Aaron Burton
Aaron Burton

@Cesar Molina EXACTLY. it's all subjective. And if more than 50 percent of people believe it then it becomes true. Likewise, our eyes are incapable of capturing ultraviolet and infrared light.. our ears are incapable of hearing certain sounds.. all of our senses are ran by electromagnetic impulses mixed with some "source" of power... Long story short anything is possible you just have to believe it's real. The same way how monks can walk on red hot coals

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Cesar Molina
Cesar Molina

@Aaron Burton Is the Earth really round? I thought it was something more like circle

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Aaron Burton
Aaron Burton

@Cesar Molina EXACTLY. the majority said it.. the majority also said the earth wasn't round, until this crazy guy named pythagoras in the 6th century bc..

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Cesar Molina
Cesar Molina

@Aaron Burton who said the sky was blue?

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Patrick Lynn
Patrick Lynn

I think a lot of Rogan fans are coming to these older videos, since his more recent ones are more caged

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Ucansvckitz McCommie
Ucansvckitz McCommie

It's better this way. The spotify podcasts are cancer.

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Cornflakes And Milk
Cornflakes And Milk

1:46:40 Jordan's Best line.

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Boofoo Rashani
Boofoo Rashani

This Benzo King huckster really likes the sound of his own voice. More jargon Benzo. You so smart.

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Charles
Charles

There comes the resentment they talk about

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TheRealMadonna
TheRealMadonna

Tee hee

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irrelevant ideology
irrelevant ideology

This podcast goes to show that Joe is actually not a moron as he claims to be. Lol

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Charles
Charles

Don’t tell anybody, they’re getting rid of all the smart people with a voice 🤫

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Crichjo32
Crichjo32

Joe has the rate gift of fluidly going from "guy talk" about chimps ripping dicks off, and overseeing in intellectual and philosophical talks like this.

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irrelevant ideology
irrelevant ideology

It is amazing that this video has 10,000,000 views. Goes to show that there is a thirst, out there for something below the surface.

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Alfredo Castro
Alfredo Castro

I wish everyone woke up and saw the mess thst we as humans,are

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May Freedom Reign
May Freedom Reign

@irrelevant ideology There is an ideology which is manufacturing freedom tho, American ideology is pretty dope. The foreign interventionalism was our only evil... but what do you do sit back and watch after WW2.... knowing the g-cide coming from Communism. Tough spot...

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May Freedom Reign
May Freedom Reign

@irrelevant ideology It is good to see other minds awakening to the madness of ideology and the g-cide it causes. It makes me happy in my heart. Keep spreading your message, make sure you are talking to people in person this is the best way.

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irrelevant ideology
irrelevant ideology

@Kushal Nitnaware I can dig it.

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Kushal Nitnaware
Kushal Nitnaware

Or above the sky

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No Tru
No Tru

Iya ya Allah.

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Kushal Nitnaware
Kushal Nitnaware

This video is getting blast

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Kushal Nitnaware
Kushal Nitnaware

@Thuddy Waters kaboom

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Thuddy Waters
Thuddy Waters

How does something get blast?

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Bob
Bob

@1:11:00 A hard-wrought lesson to learn in software is ... never start over. You will just relearn all the hard lesson all over again and will be tossing all of them out.

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Charles
Charles

That’s what failing to learn from the past does

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Jose Dominguez
Jose Dominguez

I heard a preacher saying that America in the End of Times, America was not in the picture. It was destroyed for in within.

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Crichjo32
Crichjo32

Every great empire or nation was destroyed from within.

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Paul Keogh
Paul Keogh

Free to do whatever you like except disagree with the so called progressives.

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Tomas 162
Tomas 162

vamooo jordan como se paro de manos!!

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Augustino
Augustino

I was a student at the Evergreen State College and was present during the time of these events. As someone who was there, I hope to provide a more in depth analysis that promotes OBJECTIVITY. First and foremost, I implore ANYONE interested in this topic/event to TAKE THE TIME TO FIND OUT WHAT DAY OF ABSENCE/DAY OF PRESENCE and its SIGNIFICANCE to the Evergreen State College. This is HIGHLY important to WHY THIS ISSUE STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. On Wikipedia, it semi briefly explains what Day of absence/ Day of Presence is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_State_College This event was a yearly event and it was PURELY and UNDOUBTEDLY a VOLUNTARY EVENT EVERY YEAR. This event was meant to be a day in which students both POC and white could participate in workshops both on and off campus. Every one of these workshops was different but most of them where focused on class discussions/activities about combating racism and social inequalities. In 2017, participants were ENCOURAGED that if they were a WHITE PERSON that they participate in workshops off campus and POC would participate on campus. in previous years it WAS THE OPPOSITE. The reason behind the change was directly correlated to Trump being elected president shortly before the event, the growing concerns for POC in America, and a 2015 police shooting of an unarmed black man that took place in Olympia, Washington (where the school is located). It was decided by organizers and students alike that with these things in mind, that is then reasonable and sensible to have POC stay on campus that year. Weinstein objected to this alteration as you can see here: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1259154-evergreen-state-college-racism-protests He is essentially calling this VOLUNTARY EVENT a case of reverse racism. Stating that "a group or coalition encouraging another group to go away" is "an act of oppression in and of itself". Why did Bret Weinstein SUDDENLY and COVIENTLY have an issue with this event? He was a professor at the Evergreen State College for 14 YEARS PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT so he had to have had some conception of what Day of Absence/Day of Presence was prior to writing his email. He never once wrote that in the years that preceded 2017 that "oppression" was being exhibited yet because of this alteration, he suddenly had a change of heart. Now that WHITE STUDENTS WERE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE OFF CAMPUS HE NOW HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE EVENT AN DEEMS IT OPPRESSIVE. Because of what HE did and what HE sparked, I along with my classmates and fellow Evergreen students had to fear our own safety. A person called the college campus and THREATENED TO SHOOT UP THE SCHOOL. Don't believe me? READ THIS: https://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article192244989.html I was in class when this happened and it SPARKED WIDESPREAD PANIC. My professor at the time had to tell us that someone has threatened the safety of the school and we are to leave campus immediately if we could, or go to where you live on campus and shut all your windows and lock your doors. THIS WAS PREDOMINANTLY WHY STUDENTS WALKED AROUND WITH BATS AROUND CAMPUS BECAUSE THEY FEARED THAT THEIR LIVES WERE IN JEOPARDY. It was also done because white supremacist supporters and sympathizers like the Patriots Prayer also came and protested the school and further antagonized the schools, faculty and students. THE PATRIOTS PRAYER WERE EVEN ALLOWED TO PROTEST on campus in the weeks that followed the student protests. (EXPLAINED HERE): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/protests-roil-evergreen-campus-in-olympia-again/ Whether or not you call him a racist, or he calls himself "deeply progressive" he clearly used his position to spark media coverage and bradished himself as a martyr. If he is "deeply progressive" doesn't it seem a bit odd to go on Fox News, a right-wing news organization, and add more fuel to the fire? FOX NEWS INTERVIEW HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9nFced_eo Free speech is a PRIVILEGE one that should be taking in the account of RESPONSIBILITY. As a professor of a college and someone who educates students, he should feel really ashamed for CAUSING THIS INCIDENT. It caused NUMEROUS harm to individuals, students, and faculty of the college many of whom had to leave just like Weinstein because of death threats online and other threats of violence. I do not purport to be a sympathizer of either side of this issue no matter what my biases may be. I however align myself with the students of Evergreen during that year as it affected those of us there deeply and especially affected our POC students. I only hope to promote the facts and speak my honest opinion. I also take into account that it wasn't solely him that caused this all to happen but IT DID ALL START WITH HIM AND HIS GROUNDLESS EMAIL

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Augustino
Augustino

@karthikeyan M.V No that is not true. He wasn't told to move off campus because of his skin color. Much of the protests that had happened were a response to a number of issues. Some of the specific issues are briefly explained in this article: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_598cd293e4b090964295e8fc/amp?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2JxbTdBczFqQWQ_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEFAJIu32Q36PzOjXCZwDhRTkUet-OKiRs2E8R5N71b15NFELv6v7C3908hvdA5Vh_MDCITxVM-WoECJO8csn5b0LN1JVBhCRowMfjo_fpkQG4TbIR2TFjXlPpjAOMNxAww6zc7s_RlqDs2MVOXRtYrfT1xV0GcAkssHtdNpGTsH&__twitter_impression=true What he did was push onto the mainstream American media, some false information (like him finding that he was coerced into leaving campus) as well as a self-serving narrative. This incited people to be angry or pissed off. People saw the media coverage he was receiving and with this media coverage he made false accusations and a bad argument (like the one on Tucker Carlson’s show) and simultaneously let the media falsify information about the event (Tucker Carlson said: “All white people need to leave or else.” and he didn’t bother explaining that this is wrong and didn’t bother explaining the actual meaning/significance of the event). But let’s take a look deeper look at WHY they’re pissed off. They were pissed off because they had/have bad information. It was bad information because he made an argument against something that can be proven to be wrong/false. He wrote in his email: "There is a huge difference between a group or coalition deciding to voluntarily absent themselves from a shared space in order to highlight their vital and underappreciated roles.... and a group encouraging another group to go away. The first is a forceful call to consciousness, which is, of course, crippling to the logic of oppression. The second is a show of force, and an act of oppression in and of itself."- (Brett Weinstein 2017 email) But this is false when we know full well that: “attendance at the events was voluntary; the announcement to the campus read, 'On Day of Absence, you can choose how and where to participate.”. (HuffPost). After he sent the email students protested him and his statement while simultaneously protesting a number of other issues and he used this to his advantage. He used the protests to make a strawman argument about his “free speech” getting threatened and also lets the media falsify information (as seen on Tucker Carlson). It was just what people needed to get angry and attack the school and students. They saw the videos of the students TO THEN FURTHER JUSTIFY THEIR OWN ACTION OR POSITION ON THE ISSUE. The students once again were not solely protesting Weinstein. They were calling him out on him for being WRONG and FALSIFYING information for his own benefit, but again that was not even close to the main reason for why we were protesting. Who or rather what caused this to become the chaos that transpired is largely deductive logic done by the people who watched or subjected themselves to bad and false information created by media personalities, media companies, Weinstein, and all of the other people out there that have sympathized with these false ideological viewpoints or stances. It was not the students who perpetuated this and that's hopefully clear by now. If you still think that students would follow all of those actions they took based on the fact that one professor's dumb email was wrong I’d almost agree with you that that sounds pretty lame. But I’ve given you evidence that proves this not to be the case. But the media and Weinstein purposely ignores these facts. It’s the bad/false information that caused a man to make a threat to the school by saying he will shoot people on the campus (I was even in class when this happened. We all had to leave campus if we could immediately after the call was made and the campus closed for two days. I think this is arguably more traumatizing than finding yourself protested at your own classroom.) VIDEO OF THE SHOOTERS PHONE CALL HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwFGZBNfPEo It was actions like HIS that caused online hate speech. It caused black professors and students to resign or leave (because of being doxed and threatened). It caused white supremacy groups and sympathizers to make physical threats. AND it caused people to argue for his free speech when the man exacerbated the protests and shaped a narrative which by doing so, ignored the very real reasons for why the protests happened. If this subject interests you further, please read the articles or watch the video down below. There's bad information everywhere and hey it's the internet so I can understand this. Even I got to be careful about what I listen to/watch/read. Please read (or watch) some of these articles and I promise you some of this will make more sense. This is after all YouTube comment and some random guy writing this to you. What's the harm in looking at other takes on what happened? Here’s the links if you’d like to look deeper into it should you choose to: https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article154524694.html http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article153694734.html https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/new-jersey-man-accused-of-threats-that-closed-evergreen-state-college-last-month/ https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_598cd293e4b090964295e8fc/amp?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2JxbTdBczFqQWQ_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEFAJIu32Q36PzOjXCZwDhRTkUet-OKiRs2E8R5N71b15NFELv6v7C3908hvdA5Vh_MDCITxVM-WoECJO8csn5b0LN1JVBhCRowMfjo_fpkQG4TbIR2TFjXlPpjAOMNxAww6zc7s_RlqDs2MVOXRtYrfT1xV0GcAkssHtdNpGTsH&__twitter_impression=true https://youtu.be/_tkuyVtDh_o https://socialistworker.org/2017/07/26/what-happened-at-evergreen-state

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karthikeyan M.V
karthikeyan M.V

@Augustino isn't that he was told to move out of campus just because he has a different skin color

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Augustino
Augustino

​ I don't entirely disagree nor do I deny the notion of there being "uncontrolled radicalized elements at the school". Weinstein deeming the event back in 2017 "oppressive" in his email is delusional and his sympathizers like you saying hes right is deductive logic at its finest. For anyone to call the Day of Absence/Day of Presence event that took place at Evergreen State College "racist" or saying that they "segregating people based on race" is utterly ridiculous and perprosterious. That is like me saying a "I think father-daughter dances are perpetuating the segregation of genders". Mom's aren't being excluded or segregated, they can even often participate any which way they like they'd like. A lot of single parent moms are even allowed to participate because there's plenty of daughters that don't have dads. None of the encouraging fixed against women and moms its just encouraging dad's to bring their daughters to a dance or vice versa. This event at Evergreen operated in this same way for 40+ years. I can't emphasize this enough: BRET WEINSTEIN HAD BEEN A TEACHER AT THE SCHOOL FOR 14 YEARS PRIOR TO THE 2017 EVENT. HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN ALL OF THIS FULL AND WELL YET CLEARLY ACTED IN A SENSELESS MANNER AND WITH A SENSE OF IMPROPRIETY. I'D EVEN ARGUE HE DID THIS TO ELEVATE HIS OWN STATUS. THE MAN GOT $500,000 FROM SUING THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL SETTLING OUT OF COURT. Still have doubts about this and think Weinstein is right? Perhaps read some other pieces about the event please: -https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article153694734.html -https://www.huffpost.com/entry/evergreen-state-college-another-side_b_598cd293e4b090964295e8fc?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2JxbTdBczFqQWQ_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEFAJIu32Q36PzOjXCZwDhRTkUet-OKiRs2E8R5N71b15NFELv6v7C3908hvdA5Vh_MDCITxVM-WoECJO8csn5b0LN1JVBhCRowMfjo_fpkQG4TbIR2TFjXlPpjAOMNxAww6zc7s_RlqDs2MVOXRtYrfT1xV0GcAkssHtdNpGTsH -Just a past Evergreen student trying to add some perspective.

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Augustino
Augustino

@gl00mie Lol hardly, notice how I never once claimed the man to be racist but some how I'm claiming him to be? Also, why is hardly anyone talking about his wrongdoing? Surely he deserves some amount of blame right? Everyone one of these people gotta asses the facts for what they are. Sure, i am stating my opinion as I'm doing it now but I'm not disillusioned to his actions and what they've caused and did.

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Ucansvckitz McCommie
Ucansvckitz McCommie

@Augustino Holy crap, are you stupid. I wrote exactly what I meant, you pedantic twat.

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